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		<title>Comment on Celebrate Independents by Truth Doesn&#8217;t Pick Sides &#8212; and Neither Should You &#124; Stephen D. Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Doesn&#8217;t Pick Sides &#8212; and Neither Should You &#124; Stephen D. Palmer</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] free citizens are independents. They see beyond black and white, right and wrong [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The True Believer by Eric Hoffer; book review by Trains, Health Insurance, &#38; Revolution &#124; Stephen D. Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.notquitecenter.com/2010/03/19/the-true-believer-by-eric-hoffer-book-review/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Trains, Health Insurance, &#38; Revolution &#124; Stephen D. Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 10:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It would be like filling a darkened room with a bunch of people and telling them to start swinging at each other to solve their problems. Everyone will get bruised and bloody and nothing would be solved. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on &quot;Resurrection&quot; by Leo Tolstoy – Book Review by sandhya anand</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandhya anand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book inspired me so much that I found how to follow God. This is the one book which inspired me so much next to the Bible. The characters are still vivid and live in all times even to this day. But the real beauty is the ray of goodness that is so beautifully presented in the novel. Awesome and must read for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book inspired me so much that I found how to follow God. This is the one book which inspired me so much next to the Bible. The characters are still vivid and live in all times even to this day. But the real beauty is the ray of goodness that is so beautifully presented in the novel. Awesome and must read for all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Inevitability of Compromise by Allen Levie</title>
		<link>http://www.notquitecenter.com/2010/11/05/the-inevitability-of-compromise/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Levie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting how far have you taken this?

I believe we live in a time when the whole system needs to be reborn. We need to use what we have learned from the U.S. founding era and the after times. We need to come up with new solutions. We need another 5000 year leap (to pay our enormous debts) using current technology and the best and brightest minds today.

Our degree of choice because of new education resources can be taken to a whole new level involving government differently in society.

What we do needs to have global implications through local innovation. Forms that completely change the landscape and operations of society. Especially regarding new copyrights, new currencies, new taxation, new fluid checks and balances, community-to-community relations, new divisions of labor, new mitigation and reparation possibilities, and the loss of freedom and regaining of freedoms through our choices.

We do not live in a stagnate industrial world of  autonomous countries and institutional dependence. We live in a biologically dynamic world full of new visual-media and fertile-automation possibilities.

Ownership and education should be able to yield abundance and righteousness faster than in any previous time-period. But we need a new widespread method of self imposed quality control. We see it occurring lightly in wikipedia and other places, but not yet well implemented and not yet at the level needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how far have you taken this?</p>
<p>I believe we live in a time when the whole system needs to be reborn. We need to use what we have learned from the U.S. founding era and the after times. We need to come up with new solutions. We need another 5000 year leap (to pay our enormous debts) using current technology and the best and brightest minds today.</p>
<p>Our degree of choice because of new education resources can be taken to a whole new level involving government differently in society.</p>
<p>What we do needs to have global implications through local innovation. Forms that completely change the landscape and operations of society. Especially regarding new copyrights, new currencies, new taxation, new fluid checks and balances, community-to-community relations, new divisions of labor, new mitigation and reparation possibilities, and the loss of freedom and regaining of freedoms through our choices.</p>
<p>We do not live in a stagnate industrial world of  autonomous countries and institutional dependence. We live in a biologically dynamic world full of new visual-media and fertile-automation possibilities.</p>
<p>Ownership and education should be able to yield abundance and righteousness faster than in any previous time-period. But we need a new widespread method of self imposed quality control. We see it occurring lightly in wikipedia and other places, but not yet well implemented and not yet at the level needed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Inevitability of Compromise by Stephen Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.notquitecenter.com/2010/11/05/the-inevitability-of-compromise/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;d say that was ONE purpose of republican government, though not the sole purpose.

Another, and I would argue greater, purpose is to keep the government checked, balanced, and limited so it doesn&#039;t exceed its bounds.

It has been doing that since the Civil War, and especially since 1913. And I would argue that this is largely because representatives are trying to please the people, not govern according to fixed principles.

And since reps win by pleasing the majority of the people, it seems clear to me that centrism is actually a primary reason for our government getting off track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;d say that was ONE purpose of republican government, though not the sole purpose.</p>
<p>Another, and I would argue greater, purpose is to keep the government checked, balanced, and limited so it doesn&#8217;t exceed its bounds.</p>
<p>It has been doing that since the Civil War, and especially since 1913. And I would argue that this is largely because representatives are trying to please the people, not govern according to fixed principles.</p>
<p>And since reps win by pleasing the majority of the people, it seems clear to me that centrism is actually a primary reason for our government getting off track.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Inevitability of Compromise by Centrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Centrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, as you know, the republican form of government is to mitigate the tyranny of the majority.  Refusing to compromise and cooperate leads either to gridlock if you don&#039;t have the numbers to force an agenda or to tyranny if you do.

There have to be the outside thinkers and extremists who bring in new ideas (abolitionists, suffragettes, etc.), but I think good ideas will take hold in the center and win popularity (assuming the center is educated about the truth of them--big assumption).

I wonder whether the Founders would have seen the healthcare bill as extreme; although it fails miserably to accomplish it, its theoretical goal is &quot;to promote the general welfare.&quot;  I think that government is within its purview to promote the general welfare through public health, public education, etc., because the lack of these things would be &quot;catastrophic.&quot;  I believe too that the healthcare situation will soon reach the level of catastrophe.

I guess I&#039;m operating under the assumption that most people are good and will, if given good information, make good choices (I realize that&#039;s a Pollyanna assumption).  It&#039;s getting the info into the brains of the people (and taking the ulterior motives out the of picture for our representatives) that present the problems.  Once again, it returns to personal education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, as you know, the republican form of government is to mitigate the tyranny of the majority.  Refusing to compromise and cooperate leads either to gridlock if you don&#8217;t have the numbers to force an agenda or to tyranny if you do.</p>
<p>There have to be the outside thinkers and extremists who bring in new ideas (abolitionists, suffragettes, etc.), but I think good ideas will take hold in the center and win popularity (assuming the center is educated about the truth of them&#8211;big assumption).</p>
<p>I wonder whether the Founders would have seen the healthcare bill as extreme; although it fails miserably to accomplish it, its theoretical goal is &#8220;to promote the general welfare.&#8221;  I think that government is within its purview to promote the general welfare through public health, public education, etc., because the lack of these things would be &#8220;catastrophic.&#8221;  I believe too that the healthcare situation will soon reach the level of catastrophe.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m operating under the assumption that most people are good and will, if given good information, make good choices (I realize that&#8217;s a Pollyanna assumption).  It&#8217;s getting the info into the brains of the people (and taking the ulterior motives out the of picture for our representatives) that present the problems.  Once again, it returns to personal education.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Inevitability of Compromise by Stephen Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.notquitecenter.com/2010/11/05/the-inevitability-of-compromise/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Final thought: The centrism of today was the bad extreme of yesterday, so I place no value in any policy or proposal solely on the grounds that it is centric. If it&#039;s right and you can get it done through cooperation, good on you, but if it&#039;s wrong but centric, who cares that it&#039;s centric, cooperative, compromising?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final thought: The centrism of today was the bad extreme of yesterday, so I place no value in any policy or proposal solely on the grounds that it is centric. If it&#8217;s right and you can get it done through cooperation, good on you, but if it&#8217;s wrong but centric, who cares that it&#8217;s centric, cooperative, compromising?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Inevitability of Compromise by Stephen Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I&#039;ve never understood the desire for cooperation in government. Cooperation is about the LAST attribute in the world I want the government to have.

Cooperation leads to tyranny. I&#039;d much rather see politicians fight and not &quot;get anything done.&quot; The more they &quot;get done,&quot; the more freedoms we lose.

Also, I don&#039;t understand why you place intrinsic value in &quot;centrism.&quot;

Centrism and extremism are perceived within their historical context. I&#039;m viewed as an extremist today for wanting to repeal the 16th and 17th amendments and the Federal Reserve Act. But am I truly an extremist? I don&#039;t think so.

The Founders would have viewed the health care bill as extreme.

Centrism alone can&#039;t be the barometer for healthy government. There has to be a foundation of principles to defer to.

Otherwise, governance is simply issue-oriented, rather than form and principle-oriented, and what defines the center changes with the seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I&#8217;ve never understood the desire for cooperation in government. Cooperation is about the LAST attribute in the world I want the government to have.</p>
<p>Cooperation leads to tyranny. I&#8217;d much rather see politicians fight and not &#8220;get anything done.&#8221; The more they &#8220;get done,&#8221; the more freedoms we lose.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t understand why you place intrinsic value in &#8220;centrism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Centrism and extremism are perceived within their historical context. I&#8217;m viewed as an extremist today for wanting to repeal the 16th and 17th amendments and the Federal Reserve Act. But am I truly an extremist? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>The Founders would have viewed the health care bill as extreme.</p>
<p>Centrism alone can&#8217;t be the barometer for healthy government. There has to be a foundation of principles to defer to.</p>
<p>Otherwise, governance is simply issue-oriented, rather than form and principle-oriented, and what defines the center changes with the seasons.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Newly-discovered Christmas song by Dan Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 02:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/little-town/id295641865?i=295641873</description>
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		<title>Comment on Arguments of Degrees by Traveler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conversations like you suggest are quite enlightening.  Oftentimes both parties leave the discussion with a new perspective and respect (as long as the dialogue remains civil).  Unfortunately the current political climate for such dialogue is toxic at best.  Those willing to listen and compromise are labeled RINO, Socialist, right wing, unpatriotic, etc.

The degree to which I can stomach Washington is decreasing by the day.  Hopefully sanity and decorum can return sooner than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conversations like you suggest are quite enlightening.  Oftentimes both parties leave the discussion with a new perspective and respect (as long as the dialogue remains civil).  Unfortunately the current political climate for such dialogue is toxic at best.  Those willing to listen and compromise are labeled RINO, Socialist, right wing, unpatriotic, etc.</p>
<p>The degree to which I can stomach Washington is decreasing by the day.  Hopefully sanity and decorum can return sooner than later.</p>
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