Comments on: Mission accomplished – to Bush’s chagrin http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/06/16/mission-accomplished-%e2%80%93-to-bush%e2%80%99s-chagrin/ Right in Massachusetts, Left in Utah Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:23:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Mike W. http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/06/16/mission-accomplished-%e2%80%93-to-bush%e2%80%99s-chagrin/comment-page-1/#comment-493 Mike W. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:13:03 +0000 http://www.notquitecenter.com/?p=65#comment-493 Sadly true. Thing is, most of us don't really believe that the world can change. This is a fundamental tenant of conservatism, something I will post on soon (hopefully). Sadly true. Thing is, most of us don’t really believe that the world can change. This is a fundamental tenant of conservatism, something I will post on soon (hopefully).

]]> By: Centrist http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/06/16/mission-accomplished-%e2%80%93-to-bush%e2%80%99s-chagrin/comment-page-1/#comment-492 Centrist Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:02:13 +0000 http://www.notquitecenter.com/?p=65#comment-492 I just edited the post with a great new intro, if you're interested. I just edited the post with a great new intro, if you’re interested.

]]> By: Mike W. http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/06/16/mission-accomplished-%e2%80%93-to-bush%e2%80%99s-chagrin/comment-page-1/#comment-491 Mike W. Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:08:25 +0000 http://www.notquitecenter.com/?p=65#comment-491 The ironic thing is conservatives in the U.S are currently discussing (rightly so) that increasing international justice and treaties (such as the Charter of Paris) infringe upon U.S. sovereignty at the same time they are so insistent upon truncating Iraqi and Iranian sovereignty. The other things is, this isn't anything new. After the U.S. "liberated" the Filipinos from the Spanish, they wanted to run their own government and be sovereign. We stayed, fighting for an additional decade against "insurgent" Filipinos who didn't want us to tell them how to run their country. We only left after they allowed us military bases. Hopefully the Iraqis will be determined enough in their demand for sovereignty to wait out the Bush administration. The ironic thing is conservatives in the U.S are currently discussing (rightly so) that increasing international justice and treaties (such as the Charter of Paris) infringe upon U.S. sovereignty at the same time they are so insistent upon truncating Iraqi and Iranian sovereignty.

The other things is, this isn’t anything new. After the U.S. “liberated” the Filipinos from the Spanish, they wanted to run their own government and be sovereign. We stayed, fighting for an additional decade against “insurgent” Filipinos who didn’t want us to tell them how to run their country. We only left after they allowed us military bases. Hopefully the Iraqis will be determined enough in their demand for sovereignty to wait out the Bush administration.

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