Comments on: What Conservatives Seek in a Candidate http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/02/19/what-conservatives-seek-in-a-candidate/ Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:37:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Centrist http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/02/19/what-conservatives-seek-in-a-candidate/#comment-226 Centrist Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:03:55 +0000 http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/02/19/what-conservatives-seek-in-a-candidate/#comment-226 Reluctant, don't worry. McCain will move more toward the center after the convention and start touting his skills in compromise. That's how it always works. This is part of the reason the Democratic establishment is so unsettled by Obama. His popularity among John Q. Public has taken the power away from the left-wing ideologues. Clinton is running the traditional campaign of pandering to the extreme in the primary season and planning to move to the center for the general election. Hopefully she won't have the chance. Reluctant, don’t worry. McCain will move more toward the center after the convention and start touting his skills in compromise. That’s how it always works.

This is part of the reason the Democratic establishment is so unsettled by Obama. His popularity among John Q. Public has taken the power away from the left-wing ideologues. Clinton is running the traditional campaign of pandering to the extreme in the primary season and planning to move to the center for the general election. Hopefully she won’t have the chance.

]]> By: Mike W. http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/02/19/what-conservatives-seek-in-a-candidate/#comment-225 Mike W. Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:55:48 +0000 http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/02/19/what-conservatives-seek-in-a-candidate/#comment-225 I think what you are saying, Dave, is that conservativism is an end in itself and anything that disagrees with it is thrown out as WRONG by conservatives. Conservatives care about what is right (according to their world view), not about people. Hard-core liberal idealogues are the same, it's just that there are fewer of them AND part of their ideology is "caring" about people. The Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys of the world are so devoted to an (self-interpreted) ideology that they don't understand that many of their positions are in direct contradiction to their stated fundamental ideology. For example: neo-conservativism is not conservative; it is aggressive and imperialistic and exploitative, none of which are true conservative principles (if one hearkens back to Edmund Burke, considered to be the founder of the conservative ideology). It is an ideology whose name has been hijacked by Reagan and others in an attempt to pull people who believe in "rightness" into their world of power and exploitative politics. And I agree that McCain is, for me (an independent), much more palatable than Huckabee or even Romney (in the tone that he was running). Obama has a definite moderate tone. His ideology is definitely liberal, however, which has it's own baggage. I think what you are saying, Dave, is that conservativism is an end in itself and anything that disagrees with it is thrown out as WRONG by conservatives. Conservatives care about what is right (according to their world view), not about people. Hard-core liberal idealogues are the same, it’s just that there are fewer of them AND part of their ideology is “caring” about people.

The Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys of the world are so devoted to an (self-interpreted) ideology that they don’t understand that many of their positions are in direct contradiction to their stated fundamental ideology. For example: neo-conservativism is not conservative; it is aggressive and imperialistic and exploitative, none of which are true conservative principles (if one hearkens back to Edmund Burke, considered to be the founder of the conservative ideology). It is an ideology whose name has been hijacked by Reagan and others in an attempt to pull people who believe in “rightness” into their world of power and exploitative politics.

And I agree that McCain is, for me (an independent), much more palatable than Huckabee or even Romney (in the tone that he was running).

Obama has a definite moderate tone. His ideology is definitely liberal, however, which has it’s own baggage.

]]> By: Reluctant http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/02/19/what-conservatives-seek-in-a-candidate/#comment-224 Reluctant Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:13:05 +0000 http://www.notquitecenter.com/2008/02/19/what-conservatives-seek-in-a-candidate/#comment-224 Fully agreed! This is my biggest pet peeve with politics today. The chasm between the parties has become more and more of a problem. Winning is more important than the result of the law/policy. I love Obama's push for compromise. I think McCain has tried to distance himself from his compromising past to try to appease the far right (which I don't really agree with). I think McCain will starts trumpeting his compromising past once he has the nomination all wrapped up. Fully agreed! This is my biggest pet peeve with politics today. The chasm between the parties has become more and more of a problem. Winning is more important than the result of the law/policy.

I love Obama’s push for compromise. I think McCain has tried to distance himself from his compromising past to try to appease the far right (which I don’t really agree with). I think McCain will starts trumpeting his compromising past once he has the nomination all wrapped up.

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